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legato71
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/r/vinyl
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22nd Jan 2021

Aaahhhhh yeup, I totrally meant the cartridge and the stylus. I just picked up these Wharfendale speakers and Im really happy with how they sound. I’ll pick up this cartridge! Thank you much my man!

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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23rd Aug 2021

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

For the best value what is a Craigslist area or nearby zip code to search for used options?

New stereo receiver, Yamaha R-S202 ~~$149~~ $119 or a better Cambridge Audio AXR85 ~~$399~~ $269.

Or an AV receiver with 4K HDMI, starting at $229 if there is also a TV in the room and you can optionally add more speakers for movie and TV surround sound.

Speakers:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Optional 5x speakers for the AV receiver:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or cheaper Basic CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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20th Jun 2021

The Yamaha receiver is good for an around $40 thrift shop pickup especially if it has a remote.

The Phillips speakers are designed to be used with the Phillips mini CD receiver they came with as a set. The 2 speakers each have a single small 3″ full range driver. The tweeter top detail section is fake, there is not a tweeter behind it, same as these Logitech. The third speaker is just a woofer box, not a subwoofer since it won’t be making any sub bass. You can connect just the speakers directly to the Yamaha receiver however they are very basic and will be a big sound quality bottleneck for a turntable and the Yamaha receiver. You could try cutting off the DIN connector and replacing it with RCA connectors however it’s not really worth the effort. Consider getting some better than cheap mini system speakers when you can.

For example:

Or what is a nearby town or zip to search for used options for $30 to $100?

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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29th Jan 2021

Yeah the ole MCS may sound a bit dull.

>Would definitely go for some slightly larger, slightly pricier passives.

Stand mount:

Or floor standing towers:

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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28th Jan 2021

Those speakers are the sound quality bottleneck, not the Sony PS-LX300USB. Upgrade the speakers before the turntable.

What is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

New speakers:

Or floor standing towers and then you don’t need to build or buy speaker stands:

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

sharkamino
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3rd Dec 2021
sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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2nd Dec 2021

Good plan, start with good speakers first then upgrade the turntable later if the turntable is working fine. Have you ever replaced the stylus if you have many hundreds of hours on it?

Setup Guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

For the best value what is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used options?

New receiver:

Passive speakers on sale:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Or 5 speakers for an AV Recevier:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or lower cost CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Audio Guides, Speaker Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/BudgetAudiophile
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6th Nov 2021

Thanks smackdaddy!

Some more options:

What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used speaker options?

/black_friday_sales_master_list_a_smackdaddies/

More speakers on sale:

Floor standing tower speakers, then you don’t need to buy speaker stands:

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Speaker Stands and Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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22nd Oct 2021

No.

Depending where you are you may be able to find a used recevier and passives speakers for $100 to $200. Where are you, zip code?

Or $200 to $300 for new.

Yamaha R-S202 ~~$149~~ $129 with Bluetooth and no phono input to use with a turntable with a built in phono stage preamp.

Speakers:

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20th Oct 2021
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8th Oct 2021
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sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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8th Oct 2021

If you like the receiver you could upgrade to some better and often larger passive speakers than the powered Edifiers:

sharkamino
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4th Oct 2021

What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used options?

The receiver may work however it will sound dull as the capacitors dry out over 20+ years if it has not been recapped this century.

New speakers:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or lower cost CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Speaker Stands and Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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29th Sep 2021

The Pioneer PL-990 does have a built in phono stage preamp. The preamp on/off switch is under the mat and platter. Spin the platter until you see it through the opening in the platter.

Those inexpensive indoor outdoor plastic cabinet speakers may be a sound quailty bottleneck for even the entry level PL-990.

Even $65 Dayton Dayton Audio B652 AIR may be a decent enough upgrade.

Or other passive speakers on sale:

Or what is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used speaker options?

Then you could power them with an inexpensive Pyle PDA20BT $43 with Bluetooth if you don’t want to spend $120+ on a new stereo receiver.

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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28th Sep 2021

For the best value what is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used speaker options?

Speaker deals:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or lower cost CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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26th Sep 2021

You’re welcome.

Adding more speakers? The turntable and amp are 2 channel, just 2 speakers. Movie and TV surround sound would be more than 2 speakers with a 5+ channel AV receiver.

The 3″ Covo are just rather small for main speakers, but are decent small side surround speakers for a small room.

The better Micca speakers to get are the larger 4″ MB42X or the newer improved 4″ RB42 that go lower, either for a small size room or desktop setup.

Or some larger 5″ or 6″ speakers under $150:

Better mini amps are Nobsound, Fosi, SMSL, Dayton Audio.

Or for the best value what is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used speaker and amp/receiver options?

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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20th Sep 2021

What is your budget?

What is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used options?

New on sale:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or cheaper Basic CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Speaker Stands and Placement, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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19th Sep 2021

The Sony speakers are good when they are on sale for $75 once or twice a year.

If the Sony speakers are not on sale then Jamo S 803 ~~$229~~ $109.

Or also for less cost than the Sony speakers, Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon Black or Walnut.

Better to spend the $129 on a better turntable or speakers and amp instead of a $129 phono stage preamp that will be bottle necked by the rest of the entry level starter setup. An external phono stage preamp can be added later.

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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13th Sep 2021

What is a Craigslist area I can search for used options for you? PM if not replying here.

New stereo receiver: Yamaha R-S202 ~~$149~~ $119 with Bluetooth.

Or if there is also a TV in the room an AV receiver with 4K HDMI starting at $229 and then you can optionally later add more than 2 speakers for movie and TV surround sound.

Passive speakers low cost or on sale:

Or floor standing towers and then you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or cheaper Basic CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Or smaller powered speakers for a small room or desktop setup, 4″ Jamo S 801 PM ~~$299~~ $149.

Also if you are not using the Music Hall to play 78’s an exchange for the same cost Fluance RT82 $299 gives you a $150 increase in performance and component value since it has 50% lower wow and flutter and includes an upgrade from the $30 conical tip AT3600 cartridge to the $80 elliptical tip Ortofon OM10 cartridge that is just as good as the newer version 2M Red. The RT82 would just require a $16 or better phono stage preamp or the Sony STR-DH190 $169 has a built in phono stage preamp instead of the Yamaha receiver without.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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8th Sep 2021

For a $500 budget upgrade your stereo / home theater system first for the most increase in sound quality.

For both the TV and turntable an AV receiver with HDMI switching:

Speakers: 5″ Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon Black or Walnut plus matching center speaker ~~$199~~ $100.

Or if you have the budget a 5.1 speaker package: Jamo Pair S 809 + S 83 Center + Pair S 803 + S 810 SUB ~~$1,146~~ $449 .

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or Basic CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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31st Aug 2021

For $300 you can get a better analog class A/B stereo receiver and a pair of better passive speakers.

Or for the best value what is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used options?

If you must buy digitally controlled class D amp powered speakers for an analog turntable for some reason then Fluance Ai Series are better than the $300 Edifiers.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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22nd Aug 2021

You need 4 things. Turntable, phono stage preamp, speaker amplification, speakers. Some of those functions can be combined. Some turntables have a built in phono stage preamp. Some receivers or integrated amps have a built in phono stage preamp. Stereo or AV receivers or integrated or compact or mini amps power passive speakers. Powered speakers have a built in speaker amp and a few have a built in phono stage preamp.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

I recommend turntable > receiver or integrated amp > passive speakers. Then you can later replace or upgrade one part at a time.

Ideally spend just as much on the amplification and speakers as on the turntable or buy used for half the cost.

For the best value what is a Craigslist or nearby zip code to search for used options?

A new option for a $300 turntable is Yamaha R-S202 ~~$149~~ $119 with Bluetooth plus 5″ Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon Black or Walnut and some speaker wire.

For the turntable, instead of the hollow plastic AT-LP120X, a solid MDF plinth turntable:

  • Fluance RT82 $299 has auto stop and then the new optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for lower wow and flutter and speed variation. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better.
  • Audio-Technica AT-LPW40WN $299 has the same speed sensor motor as the RT82, adds a basic built in phono stage preamp, but does not have auto stop.
  • Crosley C10 $291 is designed by Pro-ject, see the Pro-ject tonearm on it, and is basically an Essential III for lower cost.

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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18th Aug 2021

Ideally spend just as much or more on amplification and speakers as on the turntable. Or buy a used receiver and speakers for half the cost.

For the RT82 if you must buy new I recommend the Sony STR-DH190 stereo receiver with a built in phono stage preamp, then you don’t need the Technolink.

Plus passive speakers:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or cheaper Basic CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

If you must start out with small 4″ lower cost powered speakers for a small room then RT82 > Technolink > and better Jamo S 801 PM ~~$299~~ $149 instead of the Edifiers.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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15th Aug 2021

Those Altos are large PA speakers for a club, auditorium or outdoors. If you must use them then the RCA to XPR input cables should work however you will need to adjust the volume on each speaker if not using a mixer or stereo preamp to control both of them at the same time.

For home listing I recommend getting some passive home audio speakers to use with the turntable:

For the best value what is Craigslist area or nearby zip code to search for used options?

New speakers low cost or on sale:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus speaker wire plus RCA to speaker wire adapters then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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8th Aug 2021

If there is a TV in the room then for both the TV and turntable an upgrade would be an AV Receiver starting at $229 and start with 2 or 3 front speakers or a 5x speaker package.

Jamo Speakers: Pair S 809 + S 83 Center + Pair S 803 Bookshelves + S 810 SUB ~~$1,146~~ $499 with a basic subwoofer

Or Jamo Speakers: Pair S 809 + S 83 Center + Pair S 803 and add a better subwoofer from Dayton, SVS, Klipsch, HSU or Rythmik. ~~$1,297~~ $399

Or a 2 channel stereo receiver and a pair of speakers:

Speakers:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or cheaper Basic CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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7th Aug 2021

If you have a receiver, more speaker options:

Larger:

sharkamino
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26th Jul 2021

Get better speakers to use with the AT-LP60X for louder more impactful sound.

The AT-LP60X has a built in phono stage preamp.

You can optionally upgrade the turntable later for better playback and sound quailty. Or upgrade the stylus to the elliptical tip 4211-DE $21 plus shipping or eBay $27 shipped.

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  1. For the best value what is a nearby town or zip to search for used receiver and speaker options?
  2. What is the speaker upgrade budget?
  3. Is there also a TV in the room to also use the upgraded speakers with for better movie and TV sound and optional movie and TV surround sound?

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Stereo receiver: Yamaha R-S202 ~~$149~~ $119.

Speaker deals:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Plus OFC Speaker Wire or cheaper Basic CCA then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Setup guide: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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17th Jul 2021

The basic entry level Polk T15 speakers are the sound quality bottleneck along with or even before the stylus or cartridge. Upgrade the speakers first for the most increase in sound quailty or at the same time as the stylus or cartrdige.

Also you receiver and built in phono stage preamp may sound dull if it has not been serviced with a capacitor recap this century in order to sound as good as new.

The Technics is the better turntable. What is the stock cartridge and stylus on it? It already had or you put on a new stylus when you acquired it?

The Denon is basically an AT-LP3 and both have the same motor as the AT-LP60 which is not all that great. The stock cartridge is a decent enough entry level cartridge to start with, it’s not garbage. It has a good stylus upgrade option, the LP Gear CARBON FIDELITY CFN3600LE $39.

What is a nearby town or zip to search for a used speaker upgrade?

New speaker deals:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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14th Jul 2021

Speakers and amp first.

For the best value a used stereo or AV receiver and some used larger better passive speakers. Which part of NY? Or a nearby zip code to search a radius from you?

New under $250: Yamaha R-S202 ~~$149~~ $119 plus 5.25″ Jamo S 803 ~~$229~~ $109.

Or start with just the speakers first and the Lepai amp may be ok for low volumes until you can get a better receiver or integrated amp:

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Accessories and Vinyl Care

sharkamino
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/r/turntable
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25th Jun 2021

Yep, first option is lower cost.

2nd option with Dayton speakers may sound better than the Klipsch THX computer speakers. Or get better passive speakers than the Daytons.

Speakers on sale under $150:

Or what is a nearby town or zip to search for used options?

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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7th May 2021

For $650, NO! The Turntablelab bundles don’t make much sense.

The AT-LPW40WN is good for $299.

The HD3 are tiny 2.75″ mid bass driver computer desktop speakers for listening while seated at your desk and are overpriced for more than the cost of the turntable! Makes no sense why they are selling what are basically pricey computer speakers with a turntable.

AT-LPW40WN $299 + Yamaha R-S202 ~~$149~~ $99.

Plus larger speakers and speaker wire:

For around $550 is a much better setup for around $100 less.

The Yamaha R-S202 $149 MSRP plus Infinity Reference 152 $349 MSRP = $500 value compared to the tiny $350 HD3 computer speakers.

sharkamino
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/r/BudgetAudiophile
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6th May 2021

5″ Infinity Reference 152 ~~$349~~ $129. Best deal.

5″ Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon Black or Walnut.

4″ Klipsch R-41M ~~$229~~ $79.

4″ Jamo S 801 ~~$175~~ $99

5″ Jamo S 803 ~~$229~~ $119

Speaker kits:

  • 5″ C-Note MT $109 plus supplies and tools.
  • 6.5″ Dayton Audio BR-1 $205 have already built and painted cabinets and have low bass if not adding a subwoofer.

Over budget: With great bass 6.5″ Philharmonic Audio The Affordable Accuracy Plus $349. Only a screw driver is required for final assembly. Review: “The Best Speaker You’ve Never Heard Of”.

sharkamino
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1st May 2021

Speakers:

Internet Direct Speaker Brand Comparison | Audioholics

Floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Or 5x speakers for the AV receiver:

Or 3x speakers for the AV receiver: Best to get the matching center speaker while it is available. Add most any brand side surrounds later, they don’t need to match the front speakers brand or model line.

Plus OFC Speaker Wire then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

sharkamino
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/r/vinyl
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28th Apr 2021

You’re welcome. If you have basic entry level powered speakers an option is to get a stereo receiver with a built in phono stage preamp and some better passive speakers.

For example, Sony STR-DH190 $149 with 5″ Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon Black or Walnut or 5.25″ Infinity Reference 152 ~~$349~~ $149 or larger 6.5″ Infinity Reference162 ~~$449~~ $233.

Or similar used for half the price.

sharkamino
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24th Apr 2021

Jamo S 801 PM ~~$299~~ $149 instead of Edifiers.

Pass on $375 Klipsch since they like the Edifiers and Jamo have a digitally controlled class D amp instead of fully analog class A/B amp in a receiver and you can do better for less cost.

Sony STR-DH190 $149 analog stereo receiver with Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp.

To power passive speakers:

sharkamino
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23rd Apr 2021

If you are looking for a sound quailty upgrade then upgrade your speakers first.

For the best value what is a nearby town or zip to search for used options?

Stereo Receiver:

  • YAMAHA R-S202 ~~$149~~ $99.
  • Sony STR-DH190 $149 adds a built in phono stage preamp for a later turntable upgrade that doe not have one built in or add one to the Yamaha.

Or an AV receiver with 4K HDMI if there is also a TV in the room so you can optionally add more speakers for movie and TV surround sound: Denon AVR-S540BT-R ~~$279~~ $229.

Plus passive speakers:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Or DIY Speaker Kits:

  • 5″ C-Note MT $109 pair plus budget for supplies and tools. Great first time build.
  • 6.5″ Dayton Audio BR-1 $205 have already built and painted cabinets and have good low bass.

Or 5x speakers for the AV receiver:

Or 3x speakers for the AV receiver: Best to get the matching center speaker while it is available. Add most any brand side surrounds later, they don’t need to match the front speakers brand or model line.

Add speaker wire then 4 ways to strip wire.

Or return the 4″ mid bass driver Edifiers and get a good deal on the similar size but better 4″ Jamo S 801 PM ~~$299~~ $149 for a small room.

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

sharkamino
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23rd Apr 2021

Speakers:

Pair of speakers for stereo or AV receiver:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Or DIY Speaker Kits:

  • 5″ C-Note MT $109 pair plus budget for supplies and tools. Great first time build.
  • 6.5″ Dayton Audio BR-1 $205 have already built and painted cabinets and have good low bass.

Or 5x speakers for the AV receiver:

Or 3x speakers for the AV receiver: Best to get the matching center speaker while it is available. Add most any brand side surrounds later, they don’t need to match the front speakers brand or model line.

Pure Copper Oxygen Free Speaker Wire, then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire. Or more Speaker Wire options with banana plugs.

sharkamino
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22nd Apr 2021

Yes, those Aiwa shelf systems are not very good and will be the sound quailty bottleneck for the turntable.

A phono stage preamp applies the RIAA EQ curve to the phono signal to bring it to standard line level. A speaker amp such as a stereo or AV receiver or integrated amp powers passive speakers and a good number of them have a built in phono stage preamp.

What is a nearby town or zip to search for used options?

For new:

Stereo Receiver: Sony STR-DH190 with a built in phono stage preamp and Bluetooth. Next step up are Yamaha A-S301, Cambridge Audio AXR85, Emotiva TA-100, Yamaha A-S501.

Or an AV Receiver if there is also a TV in the room: AVR-S650H-R ~~399~~ $329 or 4x more $399+, all with a built in phono stage preamp. More at A4L. Or lower budget entry level Denon AVR-S540BT-R ~~$279~~ $229 plus add an external phono stage preamp if there is not one in the turntable.

Speakers for stereo or AV receiver:

DIY Kits:

  • 5″ C-Note MT $109 pair plus budget for supplies and tools. Great first time build.
  • 6.5″ Dayton Audio BR-1 $205 have already built and painted cabinets.

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Or 5x speakers for the AV receiver:

Speaker wire, then How to Install Speaker Wire and How To Strip Speaker Wire.

Subwoofer to add later:

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

sharkamino
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17th Apr 2021

You can do better for less cost:

  • Sony STR-DH190 $149 stereo receiver with Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain for the RT82.

Speakers:

Or what is a nearby zip code to search for used options?

Also the PreSonus Eris are powered speakers with a built in amp, you don’t use them with an SMSL digital mini amp.

sharkamino
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8th Apr 2021

Q Acoustics may cost more than $250.

How small is the room?

Speakers on sale:

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

sharkamino
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/r/turntables
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7th Apr 2021

For the best value what is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

Stand mount speakers:

Speaker kits: Plus budget for supplies and tools.

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

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6th Apr 2021

For the best value what is a next door town or zip to search?

Amps: Sony STR-DH190, Cambridge Audio AXR85, Emotiva TA-100, NAD C316BEE V2.

Stand mount speakers:

Great sounding easy speaker kit. No soldering required, easy assembly with a screwdriver: 6.5″ Philharmonic Affordable Accuracy Plus Quick Kit $349 pair + shipping. Similar to Ascend CBM-170SE however the AAP kit have lower bass if not adding a subwoofer. They are an upgrade from and easier to assemble than the Dayton Audio BR $195.

Speaker kits: Plus budget for supplies and tools. Or have your cabinet maker build the cabinets and apply a veneer finish.

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

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5th Apr 2021

$300 turntable and AV receiver setup:

Turntable: Fluance RT82 $299 has auto stop and then an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for low wow and flutter and speed variation. Solid MDF plinth instead of hollow plastic on the LP120X. Belt drive for motor noise isolation. Pass on the older RT81 that along with the RT80 lacks the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better. Pass on the RT84 and RT85 since for that price you can get the better Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO. Or Audio-Technica AT-LPW40WN $299 has the same speed sensor motor as the RT82, adds a basic built in phono stage preamp, but does not have auto stop.

AV Receiver: Sony STR-DH590 $279, plus a phono stage preamp if getting the RT82, or a better DENON AVR-S750H ~~$549~~ $399 has a built in phono stage preamp for the RT82.

Speakers:

$500 turntable and stereo receiver setup for $800:

Add speaker wire then 4 ways to strip wire.

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

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4th Apr 2021

Option 1, $500 turntable.

Turntable: Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO $499 new improved version of the Debut Carbon.

Stereo Receiver: Sony STRDH190 $149 with Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp.

Speakers:

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Option 2, $300 turntable.

  • Fluance RT82 $299 has auto stop and then an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for low wow and flutter and speed variation. Solid MDF plinth instead of hollow plastic on the LP120X. Belt drive for motor noise isolation. Pass on the older RT81 that along with the RT80 lacks the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better. Pass on the RT84 and RT85 since for that price you can get the better Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO.
  • Audio-Technica AT-LPW40WN $299 has the same speed sensor motor as the RT82, adds a basic built in phono stage preamp, but does not have auto stop.

Stereo Receiver: Sony STRDH190 $149 with Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp.

Speakers:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

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Option 3, buy all used or a mix of new or used. What is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

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Add speaker wire then 4 ways to strip wire.

Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

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12th Mar 2021

More speaker deals:

Or floor standing towers:

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10th Mar 2021

Yep the Edifiers are as much of a sound quailty bottleneck for the LP120 as the stylus and built in phono stage preamp.

If you do upgrade your speakers, amp and stylus, then the next step is AT-LP120 Preamp Removal Guide to use a better phono stage preamp outside of the turntable. Not needed for the new X version LP120X that it was fixed on.

The basic Technics SB-A35 may have more impact than the Edifiers however the highs and mids may not be any better.

Pass on a $100 digital mini amp for an analog vinyl setup. I don’t know why some at budgetaudiphile push digital mini amps for analog and full size turntable setups. You can often get a better used stereo receiver for less cost.

What is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

Is there also a TV in the room as part of the setup?

New stereo receivers:

  • Sony STR-DH190 $149 with a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain and Bluetooth.
  • Pioneer SX-10AE $149 adds a subwoofer output (you can use speaker wire connection to a subwoofer with the Sony). The Pioneer does not have a built in phono stage preamp so use the one in a turntable or an external one.

Speaker deals:

Or what is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification

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9th Mar 2021

What are your current speakers? If your speakers are even more basic and entry level than the Edifier speakers then upgrade the speakers first for the most upgrade in sound quality to an analog stereo receiver or integrated amp and better passive speakers then the digitally controlled amp Edifiers that are angled back for desktop use. Then upgrade the turntable later since if you are going to spend $300 on a turntable upgrade you ideally want to spend just as much or more on the speakers to get the most out of the turntable upgrade or buy used components that originally cost more than the turntable. What is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

New options:

Analog stereo receiver: Sony STR-DH190 $149 with a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain and Bluetooth.

Speaker deals:

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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9th Mar 2021

AT95E Upgrade stylus for AT-LP120 $49 is sufficient for your outdoor and digital wireless speaker setup.

If you upgrade to a better phono stage preamp for the dedicated setup then do the AT-LP120 Preamp Removal.

Will you be using the Sonos amp to power the dedicated turntable setup speakers?

Speaker deals within your $500 budget:

Or what is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

Or for $15 or $100 over your $500 budget, a dedicated turntable setup and keep the LP120 for the outdoor and wireless setup.

  • Stereo receiver: Sony STR-DH190 $149 with a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain and Bluetooth.
  • Speakers: 6.5″ Dayton Audio B652-AIR $63 shipped starter speakers then upgrade later. Or better 5″ Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon Black or Walnut. Add speaker wire then 4 ways to strip wire.
  • Turntable: Fluance RT82 $299. It has auto stop and then an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for low wow and flutter and speed variation. Solid MDF plinth instead of hollow plastic on the LP120. Belt drive for motor noise isolation. Includes the the Ortofon OM10 cartridge that is a bit better than the newer version 2M Red. Pass on the older RT81 that lacks the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better. Pass on the RT84 and RT85 since for that price you can get a better Pro-ject Debut Carbon EVO $499.

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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8th Mar 2021

Fluance is internet direct and worth waiting for.

Towers on sale: Klipsch Reference R-610F ~~$499~~ $299 pair.

Stand mount speakers on sale:

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4th Mar 2021

You already have small 4″ mid bass driver digital amp powered speakers. If you are going to upgrade then upgrade to some much better and larger passive speakers and an analog stereo receiver or integrated amp with a built in phono stage preamp starting around $300.

Analog receiver:

  • <strong>Sony STR-DH190</strong> $149 with Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain.
  • Or if there is also a TV in the room, an AV Receiver $399+ with 4K HDMI switching and you can optionally add more speakers for movie and TV surround sound.

Speakers:

Or floor standing towers and you don’t need to buy or build speaker stands:

Add speaker wire then 4 ways to strip wire.

Or what is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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19th Feb 2021

Stereo receiver: Sony STR-DH190 $149 with Bluetooth has a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain.

Speakers: Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 speakers or at Amazon Black or Walnut.

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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19th Feb 2021

You also need speaker amplification for the passive speakers.

Sony STR-DH190 $149 with Bluetooth has a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain so you don’t need a separate phono stage preamp.

The Neumi speakers seem to be decent and a good value to start with. Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 speakers or at Amazon Black or Walnut may be a bit better.

Or what is a next door town or zip to search for used speaker and receiver options?

If you get a receiver without a phono input built in phono stage preamp then the U-Turn Audio Pluto 2 $99 new improved version should be better than the Fluance PA10. Or the Technolink TCC TC-750LC $49 has adjustable gain, also available at Amazon, may be just as good as the Fluance PA10 for half the price.

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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18th Feb 2021

Another $200 to $300 for the speakers?

Sony STR-DH190 $149 with Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp with adjustable gain and Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 speakers or at Amazon Black or Walnut. Add speaker wire then 4 ways to strip wire.

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18th Feb 2021

The RT82 is a worth while step up over the LP120X.

What are you currently powering the T15 with? Upgrade the speakers first for the most increase in sound quailty since the T15 are more of a sound quailty bottleneck than the new X version LP60X turntable is.

Used:

New:

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18th Feb 2021

If the turntable is working fine then upgrade the speakers first for the most increase in sound quality.

Sony STR-DH190 $149 with Bluetooth and a built in phono stage preamp with 5″ Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon Black or Walnut.

Or look for similar used for less.

Then later the turntable, Fluance RT82 $299. It has auto stop then an optical sensor speed controlled servo motor for low wow and flutter and speed variation. Includes the Ortofon OM10 cartridge that is a bit better than the newer version 2M Red. Pass on the older RT80 and RT81 that lack the new speed sensor. Pass on the RT83 since the cartridge is not any better. Pass on the RT84 and RT85 since for those prices you can get a better Pro-ject or Music Hall.

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care. Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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18th Feb 2021

WHARFEDALE Denton 80th Anniversary ~~$1000~~ $600.

What will you power them with?

More speakers on sale:

Or floor standing towers:

sharkamino
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16th Feb 2021

What is a next door town or zip to search for used options for the best value?

New speakers:

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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14th Feb 2021

Speakers to use with the Sony receiver:

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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9th Feb 2021

>are there any speakers that you would recommend under ~150$

What is a next door town or zip to search for used speakers?

New speakers:

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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8th Feb 2021

>Once again thanks for all the great info, I hope you don’t mind me messaging you some noob questions. I am planning on purchasing the RT82, will the sony STRDH work as the pre amp as well as the receiver? Should I look into getting a better stylus, record mat and anti vibration feet for the RT82? Should I skip the Sony STRDH and just go for a bigger receiver if I want to add my laptop (for gaming and TV)? Can you point me in the direction of where to find info on matching speakers with my receiver / turntable? Thanks again

The RT82 is all set to go, it already has a good cartridge and styles and already has a good rubber mat and already has good anti vibration feet.

If you want more speakers for movie TV and gaming surround sound then get a 5 or more channel AV receiver.

How to Match Speakers and Amps

All of the speakers I listed in my previous reply will work with the receivers.

Best deal:

Or what is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

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27th Jan 2021

If you want to start with the turntable then the 4211-DE $21 stylus is sufficient for your current setup.

Your current sound quality bottleneck is the speakers so upgrade those first. Then the receiver or an integrated amp and many that are better than entry level have a good built in phono stage preamp.

What is a next door town or zip to search for used options?

Speakers:

Or floor standing towers and then you don’t need to build or buy speaker stands:

5x Speakers for an AV receiver, floor standing tower options or stand mount:

Better than entry level stereo receiver or integrated amp: Cambridge Audio AXR85, Emotiva TA-100, Yamaha A-S301, Yamaha A-S501 all with a good built in phono stage premap.

Or if there is also a TV in the room an AV Receiver $329+ with HDMI inputs and switching and you can optionally add more speakers for movie and TV surround sound.

Guides: Turntable, Phono Preamp, Amp or Receiver, Speakers and Audio Guides, Speaker Wire, Stands, Accessories and Vinyl Care.

Check out r/BudgetAudiophile for speakers and speaker amplification.

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24th Jan 2021

What headphones are you driving that need a $250+ headphone amp? A $100 one may be sufficient.

If you like the Klipsch sound go larger than the 4″ R-41 for anything larger than a small room:

Or other brands:

  • 5″ Wharfedale Crystal CR 4.2 ~~$249~~ $149 or Amazon $139.
  • 5.25″ KEF Q150 ~~$599~~ $299.
  • 6.5″ Ascend CBM-170SE $298 + shipping. Neutral sound with a linear frequency response and a great mid range that many speakers in the price range lack. Internet direct, no middlemen or resellers so compare to $600 retail speakers. My speakers of choice.

Towers:

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