A total of 47 reviews of this product on Reddit.
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Just to give you a heads up, consider a pointing stick. Also known as a nipple mouse, it looks like a little rubber nipple you put a finger on. It requires barely any movement (And I mean absolutely tiny amounts of movement, most people would not even be able to tell your finger or thumb was moving) and is quite accurate.
Thinkpads are famous for having one in the middle of their keyboards. Indeed, Lenovo do standalone keyboards with them for desktop PC’s as well. Here is an Amazon UK link to one, it is what appears to be a tiny red button in the middle of the keyboard.
There are also medical devices that you can get that work in the exact same way, but probably a lot pricier.
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My work took my Lenovo and precious nipple mouse and got me a Dell. I literally couldn’t work, especially hopping between that and my personal Lenovo. I bought this and it’s as good as the real thing https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/. It’s also thin enough to set on top of the Dell keyboard and use like normal.
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Have you tried a trackpoint? You know, the little nipple in the center of some Lenovo keyboards and laptops?
I primarily game on my Thinkpad these days and use the trackpoint for that purpose. While using it, you really only move your index finger and click with your thumb. You do occasionally need to switch to the trackpad and use a gesture for the mouse wheel, but I find all of it on the whole to be pretty comfortable.
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS
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u/migoodenuf if you don’t need bluetooth there is this one https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=trackpoint+keyboard&qid=1596056515&sr=8-3
But don’t waste your time with the non-Thinkpad branded Lenovo keyboards, (they probably won’t be much different than your Dell). The rubber domes on them are completely different, at least the laptop versions. My sister has an IdeaPad while I’ve got a ThinkPad E470, the difference is miles apart.
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Just realised that this existed : https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1523966713&sr=1-4&keywords=thinkpad+keyboard
To be honest, I almost want to sell my HHKB for this keyboard AHAHA
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You could buy something like a Thinkpad USB keyboard which mimics a laptop:
You’ll have to learn to use the trackpoint though.
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> Qutebrowser is a great example of how I would imagine using them with keyboard.
It’s actually a great example why a mouseless workflow is still imposible as Qutebrowser doesn’t support hints for items created by Javascript (try to press on the little buttons which expand images here on Reddit).
You can improve your keyboard oriented workflow by using keyboard centric and TUI applications but at the end of the day you will find yourself still depending on a pointer device for some tasks.
When I started using Vim binding everywhere I decided to get the Thinkpad USB Keyboard to help keep my fingers on the keyboard and avoid unnecessary hand and wrist movement, it’s not perfect but I’m pretty happy with it.
By the way I’m using i3.
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Another one that doesn’t require any/minimal wrist movement is the trackpoint on a thinkpad laptop.
You can buy the setup as a USB keyboard. Not cheap though it seems. Might be worth digging around for an IBM one, the Lenovo ones may be a bit flimsy according to some reviews:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Compact-Keyboard-Trackpoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS
Best of luck finding something that works for you!!
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I don’t think so, you should still be able to order off of it though. If you can’t, I found it on Amazon.
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I have one of those. Bought it used on e-bay. It’s great except that the drivers aren’t super wonderful these days. And if you’re planning on using with a docked Thinkpad, the drivers will clash.
I use two of these: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1475608125&sr=8-2&keywords=lenovo+trackpoint+keyboard I have them taped together at an angle to make it more ergonomic. They’re kind of small and working on just one cramps my wrists.
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Eh, I’m using a glorious ThinkPad laptop keyboard and can’t understand high-profile keyboards in general. If I’m ever going to get a desktop, my keyboard of choice would probably be this.
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Laptop keyboards almost always use scissor switches. Lenovo and Apple are among the best in that regard, and I actually really enjoy typing on my W530. Have you considered buying something like this? It’s cheaper than buying a mechanical keyboard, very familiar if you’re used to the W530, and has the trackpoint you’re looking for.
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I think what you might be referring to is the key travel, which is typical for basically all non-laptop (or scissor switch) keys. You can get keycaps with a lower profile as /u/Raykay101 suggested, but the key travel would remain the same because the switch’s stem would be unaffected.
If you do prefer something with less key travel, that’s absolutely fine. I’m personally a huge fan of Lenovo’s laptop keyboards, and I’d take them over some varieties of Cherry switches. Not all scissor switches are created equal, but the good ones really are pretty nice to type on.
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This is what you’re looking for:
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS (this is the USB version).
I have one. The quality is excellent and it’s very quiet with good tactile feedback. I can type faster on this than on any of my mechanical keyboards by a few WPM.
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Yep! Can’t live without the trackpoint! Amazon
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Lenovo actually sells desktop versions of their keyboards, which can connect via USB or Bluetooth. They are found on Amazon at: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ (Wired) and https://www.amazon.com/ThinkPad-Compact-Bluetooth-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00C32FWJC/ (Wireless). Note that I am unsure if these will be the exact same as your E560 (being you mentioned that the T440’s was different (while both appearing the same as chiclet). Alternatively, being you said that you liked the MX Browns except for the actuation force needed, perhaps you’ll like MX Reds (being they have the least actuation force out of Cherry’s lineup)?
Besides just being called a “ThinkPad chiclet keyboard,” I don’t know any precise name for the technology used.
Hope this helps!
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Mine is a USB wired version from Amazon. There is a BT wireless version too now.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00F3U4TQS/
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Haha.
I got the wired keyboard from Amazon:
You can get the Bluetooth version straight from the Lenovo website.
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I mean unless you do a quick search on amazon
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The link is not dead and opens perfectly for me. Another thing is that the OP could have given a link without the garbage it contained. That is:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F3U4TQS
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How about Lenovo Thinkpad keyboard?
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/
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A few factors to consider:
1. Are you going to use more than one external monitor?
2. Will you be putting the laptop on a stand next to the external monitor?
3. Are you needing RJ45 ethernet?
4. What kind of peripherals are you putting on dock?
I would buy a generic USB-C hub as a dock (Aukey and Anker are popular) if needing only a single external monitor. They have less compatibility concerns and are cheaper. Make sure you buy one marked for PD (Power Delivery) and it will charge your laptop. For T480 you will want 60W+. Also you may want a larger (e.g. 90W) USB-C chager as the hub will consume some power also. If you are putting the laptop on a stand, you may want to consider a longer cable variant so that the USB-C port won’t be under stress from the hub dangling around.
ThinkPad Compact Keyboard
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00F3U4TQS/
Aukey USB-C Hub
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B089M7WSHM/
Another USB-C Hub with longer cable
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B087JMGSL2/
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Something like this? Lenovo made an older version with the old-style Thinkpad keys.
Alternatively if you want a scissor switches keyboard with similar shape keys (but no pointing stick) and a full layout, the Cherry Stream is pretty nice.
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Os únicos que conheço 60% são Mecanico, de BT portatil (bosta) e tem uma linha da lenovo que tem ou sem fio ou com fio igual dos thinkpads.
mas nunca achei pra vender no brasil, e nao seria barato de qualquer forma: https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Teclado-compacto-Lenovo-ThinkPad-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS
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This is a follow up from my last thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/jcgfhm/preventing_thermal_throttling_in_macbook_pro_2019/
I swear I’m not trying to spam my complaints, I’m just trying to make things work.
It was suggested I try iStats to read temperature sensors at other locations (not just the CPU) and see what happens with and without USB-C hubs plugged/unplugged. There’s definitely an impact.
But what is more interesting is when I tried a control: USB-C to USB-A adapter with nothing on the USB-A side.
I figured that nothing would happen. But what I see is a pretty significant temperature increase (+10-15˚C) at the Thunderbolt hardware, which is accompanied by an appreciable (+5-7˚C) increase of the exhaust heat on the same side. I don’t think there’s any increase in CPU or GPU temperature until the an actual device is plugged in (because I was doing stuff, like Googling “What the fuck is happening”).
The timeline is as follows:
- The big plateau on the left is with my USB-C hubs plugged in.
- All USB devices and hubs are removed, and temperatures are allowed to reach (or approach) a baseline.
- The first hump is with the USB-C <-> USB-A adapter plugged into the bottom left USB-C port with nothing connected on the USB-A side, and allowing the temperature to stabilize.
- The USB-C <-> USB-A adapter is removed, and again temperatures are allowed to reach a baseline.
- The second hump is with the USB adapter plugged into the same USB-C port, but with a wired USB keyboard attached to the USB-A side, and allowing temperatures to stabilize.
The USB adapter is just a simple USB-C <-> USB-A adapter that comes with any phone these days. I think this one measured here comes from the Pixel 1 phone, but I’ve tried this (the case with nothing attached to the USB-A side) with three other adapters of the same kind, and I see the same effect.
Keyboard is nothing special, just a wired Thinkpad keyboard (https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS)
The laptop sits on a laptop tray (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RJZJVHF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1), not that it matters (because I’m looking at the increase in temperature, not the continuous temperature).
Now, in my previous thread, it was suggested that my cheaper USB-C hubs draw a significant amount of power. I agree that the throttling effects I see are probably related to using USB hubs (directly through current draw, the high temperature of the Thunderbolt hardware, or the heat adding to the temperature of the exhaust) in conjunction with whatever workload I’m throwing at the machine.
But I don’t see what I can do about it. If an unloaded USB-C adapter can get me most of the way to the same temperature as a USB-C hub with ethernet, HDMI, and USB-A all plugged in, then I don’t really think the hub is at fault here, and so shelling out a ton of money on a much fancier USB hub is really unlikely to fix the issue.
I really need my laptop to not always be right on the edge of throttling, or at least come back up after the processing load passes.
Today I was throttled down to 800MhZ, which is fucking insane. A iMac G4 from 2003 can run at a higher clock speed.
I feel like I’m losing my mind here. Any suggestions? Know of any good liquid nitrogen suppliers?
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I don’t know about overpriced, but they are definitely more expensive than other brands of similar quality, like Dell. Lenovo is awesome, but I consider them to be somewhat of a luxury item, because you are definitely paying very high a premium for comfort. I believe Thinkpads are definitely worth it, but only if you do a lot of typing and need something portable and aren’t on a strict budget. If you dig the Trackpoint and don’t mind using and external keyboard, you can always get a Dell and use with Lenovo’s external keyboard with Trackpoint, available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1535836363&sr=1-2&keywords=thinkpad+keyboard+with+trackpoint.
I have both a Dell 6530 Latitude and a Lenovo X1 Carbon. I use a Dell XPS at work. The business class Dells are a better value by far, with much better specs for the price and greater durability, since they have magnesium cases rather than plastic/carbon fiber like Lenovos. However, I really like the Lenovo keyboard and aesthetics – both visual and tactile. The experience of typing on a Thinkpad is awesome. Dell keyboards are very nice but get very hot to the touch in the area where you rest your palms if using for an extended period. Some of the Dell models have a trackpoint, but it isn’t really usable, compared to the Lenovo trackpoint, which is really comfortable to use and accurate enough to completely replace your mouse and/or touchpad. I almost always use an external keyboard with Dell laptops.
I would recommend going to the refurbished/scratch and dent section of the Dell website and checking out returns. I got my 6530 Latitude for half off (less than $1000) with incredible specs six years ago when I was a student, and it is still going strong. I would not bother with Acer, or any other cheaper brands, because as a student you are really not going to want something that you may need to replace in the next few years. (I did have an Acer before the Dell – it completely fell apart on my way to class one day after a duct tape repair failed. The thing just fell apart bit by bit over the course of a year, flaking off chunks of plastic, keys, etc – terrible build quality.) By the way, my six-year old Latitude smoked the new Carbon X-1 when I benchmarked them. Another point to consider is the screen, which is lackluster on all Lenovo laptops, (except the really high end Yoga models with OLED screens) whereas the screens on business class Dells are generally great. One drawback to the the more affordable Dell business machines is that they are heavy and make a statement – whether you want them to or not. They are aggressively large and unfashionable. I didn’t care about that, but I did note that it looked out of place in the sea of sleek Macbooks that almost everyone else was using. If you care about that, and have a bit more room in your budget, the XPS is a very nice machine, and you can sometimes find them in scratch and dent section as well. My refurbished Latitude had no discernible scratches or dents of any kind, and I still consider it one of the best, if not the best, purchases I’ve ever made.
In short, I wouldn’t really recommend a new or refurbished Lenovo laptop for a student, especially if that is your main machine.
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I have never seen that. I would say no. It would probably be within the realm of possibility if you want to make it yourself, but I highly doubt it exists as an item on the market. The connection is not standard, and an HP keyboard may or may not use the same connector as a Lenovo or Sony or Acer or Huawei computer.
It would be a hard product to release since the market would be very tiny. If you list the specific computer you pulled the keyboard from I can help you look but it is very unlikely to be a product anywhere.
I am guessing it is a Thinkpad keyboard as they are the most unique with the red ThinkPoint and mouse buttons. If so you could buy this one or this one for a similar experience.
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yeah, that wired one looks like garbage, and it doesn’t even have a trackpoint.
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is this available?
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just buy a thinkpad compact keyboard
amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS
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I have a dell and the keyboard sucks balls. I have one of these I use every day:
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?keywords=thinkpad+usb+keyboard&qid=1564963511&s=gateway&sr=8-3&linkCode=ll1&tag=karljohnson-20&linkId=38f630a7fbbf2fe5f1cc71f5382d1e07&language=en_US
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Not as good as the keyboard on my T25, but close enough.
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Hate big keyboards, always use compact/tenkeyless ones.
This is my current favorite for work and gaming:
https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS
This one is good if you like them loud:
https://www.amazon.com/Redragon-KUMARA-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B016MAK38U
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Wait, is this what you were looking at? Is that the wrong thing?
$60 ain’t bad, I kinda want to get one.
edit: oops my bad, realized you were talking about the x220 style one
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Lenovo Thinkpad compact USB keyboard with TrackPoint at home and work. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3U4TQS/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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What you’re looking for exists, but not within the $30 range. Example here.
If you wish to spend less, this may appeal to you.
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I’d like to do something like this some time…. I’d do a wooden box with pi and battery in bottom, and a keyboard like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS/
And then one of the 10″ HDMI displays that works w/ the pi in the lid. You could power the whole thing with a battery like this: http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc-20000mAh-Dual-Input-External-Portable/dp/B01422TC14/
And maybe a 5v -> 12v converter for the display, if needed, but many of those are usb power to begin with…
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You can get a Lenovo compact external keyboard that is identical to the keyboards in the current lineup of ThinkPads.
Also, if you can relive the glory days with a mechanical TrackPoint keyboard like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/252273070396
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Lenovo ThinkPad Compact USB Keyboard with TrackPoint
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3U4TQS
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I’m sure that’s not anywhere near the MSRP. It’s probably an older keyboard that’s no longer made. Sellers can jack up prices on items that have been discontinued by the manufacturer because it’s a seller’s market. Here’s what appears to be the current model (a little more reasonable at $65.)
My Logitech Cordless Optical Trackman (of which there is no current equivalent model) sold for a reasonable price at the time (about $60), but now it’s $389 on Amazon.
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Try a keyboard with trackpoint and put the mouse aside while programming. It works wonders for ergonomics and RSI.
http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Compact-Keyboard-TrackPoint/dp/B00F3U4TQS
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I’ll probably be considered the anti-christ for this, but I fucking hate mechanical keyboards. They feel like shit to me. They’re not “clicky”. They’re mushy, and the travel is too long and I hate it. (For reference, I’ve tried clears on a CODE keyboard and reds on a choco and blue on…something). They’re bad.
But I love my thinkpad keyboard 😀 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F3U4TQS/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687762&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B002ONCC6G&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0WT51E6SQCT7QM2DJ9P3
