A total of 11 reviews of this product on Reddit.
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If you replace the earpads with ones recomended in Zeos review they get a little bit more bassy but just enough 🙂 yeah i paid mine 300eur as well. If im not wrong H400s i saw them nowdays on amazon for much cheaper https://www.amazon.co.uk/HIFIMAN-HE400S-Full-Size-Magnetic-Headphone-Silver-Black/dp/B00Y2EOI94/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1539019577&sr=8-1&keywords=hifiman+400s here 🙂 180£ from amazo.uk not sure is it convenient for you in terms of delivery etc.
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I personally think the HiFiMAN HE-400S is better than the HD600/650. (https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-HE400S-Full-Size-Magnetic-Headphone/dp/B00Y2EOI94). They more “fun” as well, which is a huge critique of the HD600/650. For closed cans around that price, maybe the E-MU Teak, but they’re more semi-open than they are closed.
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Hifiman HE-400s Planar Magnetic headphones.. Absolutely gorgeous sounding cans even unamp. With proper amp the detail, imaging, soundstage, air, treble & bass extension are all fantastic. They’re incredibly comfortable too.
In direct A-B comparison to some of the best cans in the world (Senn HD650, Senn HD600, Beyerdynamic DT880 600ohm) I find the HE-400s superior to all of them w/ my PC and HT setups.
Obviously I use these for more than just gaming. When searching for headphones to replace/complement my DT880s I needed cans that would excel both at FPS gaming and critical music listening. These fit the bill wonderfully
My current PC sound rig is a modded Creative Titanium HD sound card > BlueJeanCable LCA1 IC’s > Meier Audio Corda Opera amp > HE-400s.
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I ended up getting the HiFiMan HE-400S which are the budget ones, but I felt it was a good cheap way to get a pair of Planar Magnetic Headphone. I got them for $220 USD so we will see they normally go for $300 USD. Prob go with the HD700s next time I get the itch.
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Hello again guys. 🙂
I came here 6 months ago looking for help and advice before getting my current pair of Sennheiser HD 598s.
The 598s are really good and all, they met my expectations.
This was my first pair of actual audiophile headphones, and it was a great and fun experience, from researching to using the headphones.
As many of you predicted, I am now looking for something better and more expensive, now complete with a DAC and an amp.
I currently have my eyes set on the HIFIMAN HE400Ss.
I’m looking for a balanced or neutral sound signature, maybe even a bit bright. I do not mind the lack of a punchy bass as long as it’s not completely void of any bass. I also like mid-treble heavy headphones, like my current pair.
I’ve done my research about them and they seem to meet what I’m looking for. I’ve however, read about the not-so-great construction quality and use of plastic of the headphones. This isn’t really much of a concern since my focus is of course audio quality. It is however, something to consider.
For the amp and DAC I think I would go with the Shiit Vali 2 and Modi 2
This would be a grand total of $570 + shipping. Quite a big difference from the $100 I spent on my 598s (I got em’ on a good sale on my country’s amazon.
I was hoping you guys could tell me if I am making the right decision, your experiences with the headphones, a recommendation for a different headset or a different amp and DAC combo, etc.
The thing I would use them mainly on is definitely gaming, followed by listening to Rock, Soft Rock, Classical Rock, Classical Music, some Punk. I would also use them to plug in my guitar and digital piano, but not as much as gaming or music.
Note: The Philips X2 Fidelio have also caught my eye and was wondering how do they fare against the HE400Ss.
My budget would be less than $350-400 for the headphones, and around $300 for the amp and DAC.
Thanks everyone for their time 🙂
By the way, sorry for any mistake on my english, I consider my self good at it, even though mistakes pop from time to time.
Sincerely, Fritz.
Edit: Hmm, the BeyerDynamic DT 88s Also seem like an interesting choice to consider. The 600 ohm version is pretty tempting.
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The Hifiman HE-400i and HE-400s are both great headphones, but both are of an open-backed design. But depending on your office situation, sound leakage might be an issue. If not, I’d recommend you go for the earsier-to-drive S version (see answers on Amazon) which should combine better with your Samsung.
The problem (or challenge) with your wish list is that many closed headphones suffer from a narrow soundstage.
Here are a few options that offer good isolation and a decent soundstage
- AKG Pro Audio K271 ($179)
- Beyerdynamic DT 770 80 ohm ($150)
- Beyerdynamic DT1170 ($600)
- Sennheiser HD 598 C ($170)
- Shure SRH1540 ($499)
Process of elimination
- The DT1770 and Shure SRH1540 are too expensive
- The AKG really needs an amp (as does the DT1770)
Which leaves us with the DT770 and HD 598 C. Luckily they are both good (and rather different) options
- Sennheiser is more neutral sounding (see measurements for the open version on Innerfidelity)
- Beyer had a v-shaped frequency response, i.e. boosted bass and treble (see measurements for 600 ohm version)
- Sennheiser looks like a regular headphone, nothing too flashy
- Beyers are pretty bulky and utilitarian (military?) in appearance
- They are equal in clamping force (3.5N) and weight (270g)
- The Beyers have more roomy ear pads and combine better with glasses
Personally I prefer the “fun” sound of the Beyers over the “analytical” Sennheisers, but YMMV.
Good luck with the decision!
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I was teaching him and carried his ass back in the days in wotlk.. 😀
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00Y2EOI94/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1
isnt that on sales? they are 400euro in sweden
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So currently Amazon has the H400S on sale for $287 but then they have the H400I on sale for $249 would it be a better choice going with the H400I’s? This is for purely gaming and according to /u/ZeosPantera he recommends the H400S’s just curious if anyone could chime in with a suggestion since to ME the average person the better headphones are less expensive, am I correct in that regard?
Edit: Ok so the X2 keeps popping up everywhere I look, so I am assuming these are the headphones I probably should just go with. I hate headphone chasing lol. But I think I am ready to get rid of the Astro a40’s with the mixamp pro and get these X2’s and amp them later with the Sennheiser GSX1000…
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Sorry it took a while before I could provide this list, it took a bit longer for me since I am not very much into the bass style of headphones & music.
Ow interesting, do know which Sennheiser’s exactly?
Just so I have a reference.
But we have a very high budget left over for some amazing headphones or even some great headsets (altho, there aren’t a lot).
The difference between headphones & headset is that the latter got a microphone. That’s all! In general this means that a headset is more focused towards “gamers”. So they’re often marketed and produced to give gamers “everything they need!”.
So.. bass heavy headphones are often closed headphones, which means that you lose some of the sound stage, it means that the music will sound like it comes from inside your head, instead of from around you.
I absolutely love open-back headphones for this reason. They sound a lot more natural and especially for my music styles this is ideal. Those are classical, rock & metal. The instrumentals sound fairly close to what they sound like in real life and the vocals are very natural and crisp.
- Open vs closed-backed headphones
^(sorry.. I can’t help it why he freaking used that.. guy in the video to show us what a concert is. He makes up for it a little bit later on.)
Anyway, I’ve had a lot of looks at some contestants for great headphones for your use.
Headphones
Product Name | Open/Closed | Ohms | Review | Price |
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Kingston HyperX Cloud Pro Headset | Closed | 60 | Click & Click | $70.29 @ Newegg |
Kingston HyperX Cloud Headset | Closed | 60 | Same but in white | $74.99 @ Newegg |
Audio-Technica ATH-AD900x Headphones | Open | 38 | Click | $149.00 @ Amazon |
Philips X1/28 Headset | Open | 30 | Click | $194.00 @ Amazon |
Beyerdynamic DT 880 Premium 250 Ohm Headphones | Semi-open | 250 | Click | $239.00 @ Amazon |
Beyerdynamic DT 990 Headphones | Open | 250 | Click & Click | $258.99 @ Amazon |
HiFiMAN HE400S Headphones | Open | 22 | Click | $299.00 @ Amazon |
Sennheiser HD600 Headphones | Open | 300 | Click | $329.95 @ Amazon |
Prices include shipping, taxes and discounts | ||||
Total | $1351.22 | |||
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So I list the impedance (Ohms) for a good reason. The 3 that are above the 80Ohms would benefit a lot from dedicated amplifier. The motherboard I selected got some pretty good on-board audio and a solid AMP, but a dedicated one will be a much better experience.
Now DACs (Digital to Analog Converter) & AMPs (AMPlifiers) can get expensive really quickly.
But there are also a couple of great value options out there.
DAC & AMPs
Type | Product Name | Review | Price |
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DAC & AMP combo | Schiit Fulla | Click | $79 |
DAC & AMP Combo | FiiO E10K | Click | $75 |
DAC & AMP Combo | SMSL SD793-II + Toslink Cable | Can’t find an in-depth review. | $65 +$6 |
Now my suggestion would probably go towards the Philips X1’s. How-ever the DT880’s aren’t bad either, but they require an AMP.
The HE400S would be a slightly cheaper option if you exclude the AMP.
The AD900x would be my next option and then it’s followed by the DT990’s & HD600’s.
I only included the Kingston headsets in case you don’t want to spend as much money.
As for the AMP/DAC options, I really like the Fulla Schiit (yes that’s really their name). But if you read the product page & FAQ, you’ll see that they’re no bull*schiit* at all.
The company was founded by 2 audio veterans who wanted to create affordable, high quality audio devices. Well they did just that.
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I would suggest the Hifiman HE-400S with the replacement Focus Pads also from Hifiman. I could go on about how much I love these headphones, and why the added focus pads helped improve the bass, but I suggest reading Tyll’s review instead as he is much better at it than I am.
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Thank you! I was looking at some myself aswell, are these ones any good?
HIFIMAN HE400S Over Ear Full-Size Planar Magnetic Headphone https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Y2EOI94/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_AJeMwbVGM6D0Z