What is the opinion of Reddit about the
Assessments for Sport and Athletic Performance?

https://www.amazon.com/Assessments-Sport-Athletic-Performance-Fukuda/dp/1492559881 here’s your data. They performed strength tests on a ton of different athlete populations. None of them showed numbers as high as the sbs data. In addition, though people seem to have a problem with the data collection method, I’ll link strengthlevel.com again.

Many sets of data for resistance trained athletes that all look way lower than the sbs analysis.

At the low end anyway. The high end isn’t that far off but the low end is much higher. I hypothesize a decent explanation for this is selection bias in the sbs sample.

lol, ok.

Here’s some other data (that I’ve linked to before in this discussion)

https://www.amazon.com/Assessments-Sport-Athletic-Performance-Fukuda/dp/1492559881 in this book, a study of strength was conducted that found that the average D1 college football player had a back squat of around 400 lbs.

Here’s an article concluding the average NCAA football player weighs around 232 lbs https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2017-11-07/how-big-average-college-football-player-breaking-down-size

The chart you linked?

It says a 400 lbs squat for a 231 lbs individual is between the 20th and 25th percentile.

Does that mean D1 college football players or weak or don’t train seriously?

Or is it more likely that competitive powerlifters are a VERY self selected group that choose to compete in the sport BECAUSE they are already strong?

Would you at least admit that a chart that shows the average D1 American football player as having below average strength is not very useful and potentially discouraging for someone who is beginning to strength train?

>A reference to the actual data? Maybe I missed it, could you please link to it?

It’s in the book. Here’s the book. https://www.amazon.com/Assessments-Sport-Athletic-Performance-Fukuda/dp/1492559881 the chart about D1 football player squat numbers is on page 173, but I’m not going to link the data as I don’t want to violate this guy’s copyright.

So still no, just your anecdotal experience.

Here’s a work by a Kinesiology professor on the topic of athletic standards https://www.amazon.com/Assessments-Sport-Athletic-Performance-Fukuda/dp/1492559881 .

One of the things they did was measure bench press strength, and in their study, I believe they found the 50th percentile of men in their 20s to be roughly 170 lbs (LOWER than a lot of the “intermediate” standards on strengthlevel).

You can use anecdotes all you want and swing around your big internet dick about how strong all the people you know are, but that doesn’t counteract actual data on the topic.